Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/23/1993 02:05 PM Senate HES

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     SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE                    
                         April 23, 1993                                        
                           2:05 p.m.                                           
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
 Senator Steve Rieger, Chairman                                                
 Senator Bert Sharp, Vice-Chairman                                             
 Senator Johnny Ellis                                                          
 Senator Judy Salo                                                             
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
 Senator Loren Leman                                                           
 Senator Mike Miller                                                           
 Senator Jim Duncan                                                            
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
 -- CONFIRMATION HEARING - Mary Jane Fate & R. Danforth                        
                           Ogg to University of Alaska Board                   
                           of Regents                                          
                                                                               
      ACTION NARRATIVE                                                         
                                                                               
 TAPE 93-39, SIDE A                                                            
 Number 001                                                                    
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN RIEGER  called the Senate Health, Education and Social              
 Services (HESS) Committee to order at 2:05 p.m.  He stated the                
 only order of business would a confirmation hearing on                        
 Governor appointees Mary Jane Fate and Dan Ogg to the                         
 University of Alaska Board of Regents.                                        
                                                                               
 Number 020                                                                    
                                                                               
 MARY JANE FATE informed the committee she was born in Rampart,                
 Alaska, she is an Athabaskan Indian, and she attended Mt.                     
 Edgecumbe High School in Sitka when it was operated by the                    
 Bureau of Indian Affairs.  She is presently co-chairing the                   
 Federal-State Commission which is reviewing all policies and                  
 programs affecting Alaska Natives.  She is also involved with                 
 her village corporation which was formed pursuant to the                      
 Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act.                                          
                                                                               
 Number 050                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO noted that controversy on the Fairbanks campus                   
 has been whether or not the rural education preparation has                   
 had high enough standards, and she asked Ms. Fate if she had                  
 any comments on that issue.  Ms. Fate responded that she is                   
 very concerned, and she believes that the State of Alaska has                 
 not done its job in delivering quality education to the rural                 
 areas.   She added that there have been some steps taken to                   
 address this situation, such as certification of community                    
 health aides to help deal with alcohol and drug problems in                   
 the rural areas.                                                              
                                                                               
 Number 112                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ELLIS said at the time of consolidation, one of the                   
 commitments made was that the university would attempt, over                  
 time, to coordinate degree programs among the campuses in                     
 order to have good quality professional programs at the                       
 different campuses.  He asked if Ms. Fate thought it was the                  
 university's responsibility to offer a little bit of                          
 everything at each campus, or to have campuses specialize in                  
 degree programs.  Ms. Fate answered that each campus should                   
 have the same to begin with.  If the student demand is there                  
 and if it is needed for that degree, those degree programs                    
 should be available.                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 162                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER asked Ms. Fate if she had an opinion on what                  
 emphasis of the university should be between upper division,                  
 lower division, and graduate courses.  Ms. Fate answered she                  
 is for the best university Alaska can have, and she thinks                    
 that can be achieved without that much expense by being                       
 innovative and generating other revenues.   She stressed the                  
 importance of having undergraduate programs, postgraduate                     
 programs and doctorate programs.                                              
                                                                               
 Chairman Rieger also asked if Ms. Fate had on opinion on                      
 tenure for university professors.  Ms. Fate responded that her                
 feelings on tenure are mixed.  She said a lot of the good                     
 people in the university are really stretched and we don't                    
 want to lose these people, but she would hate to see the                      
 university stuck with tenure with somebody who is excess                      
 baggage.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 250                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER thanked Ms. Fate for her participation in the                 
 hearing and then invited Dan Ogg to address the committee.                    
                                                                               
 DAN OGG said he has lived in Kodiak since 1973, working in the                
 fishing industry and the construction industry.  He has served                
 on the local assembly, served as borough mayor, and served on                 
 the local planning commission.  He has attended law school and                
 now practices law in the winter months and continues to be a                  
 commercial fisherman.                                                         
                                                                               
 Number 262                                                                    
 SENATOR ELLIS noted that in his Letter of Interest to Governor                
 Hickel, Mr. Ogg had indicated that postsecondary education is                 
 very important to the economic development of the state,                      
 especially in the seafood industry.  He asked if he had any                   
 specific kinds of improvements that he would like to see in                   
 the university degree programs that have a direct relationship                
 to the seafood industry of the state.   Mr. Ogg said the                      
 president of the university has set up a working committee                    
 with the fishing industry, which will be meeting shortly in                   
 Kodiak, and he has asked that he be able to participate.  He                  
 believes that they will be exploring what directions the                      
 university can work in and provide something that is of                       
 interest to the industry to further the economics of the                      
 fishery to the state.                                                         
                                                                               
 Number 338                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR SHARP said one of his concerns for the past several                   
 years has been that when the legislature responds to specific                 
 requests by the university and the money is appropriated, the                 
 money sometimes gets moved around a little.   He said he hopes                
 the new regents will be committed to tightening up the reigns                 
 to better control capital appropriations.                                     
                                                                               
 Number 368                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER asked Mr. Ogg for his comments on emphasis                    
 between lower division and upper division and graduate                        
 courses.  Mr. Ogg responded that he thinks all three have a                   
 position in the university and in the secondary education                     
 level.  He thinks the community college program  and the                      
 bachelor degree program are the most important and there                      
 should be less emphasis in the graduate program.                              
                                                                               
 Chairman Rieger said there has been a perception that the                     
 regents have had a policy that the post graduate education                    
 should be concentrated at the Fairbanks campus, and he asked                  
 Mr. Ogg if had comments on that issue.  Mr. Ogg answered that                 
 Fairbanks has traditionally a lot of graduate degree programs                 
 and they are very good, but there are probably other areas,                   
 such as Anchorage, where a graduate degree would be better                    
 suited to be located there.                                                   
                                                                               
 Chairman Rieger asked Mr. Ogg for his comments on university                  
 professor tenure.  Mr. Ogg said in order to attract professors                
 of good quality, they want tenure, but he thinks it is an area                
 that needs to be looked at carefully because there has to be                  
 some mechanism where they can go in and get the people who                    
 have taken advantage of it and actually have become a burden                  
 to the education system.                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 412                                                                    
 Chairman Rieger commented that in working on the university                   
 budget in the Finance Committee, he gets the impression that                  
 there is no room to try to do anything new because we are so                  
 busy trying to keep up with what we are doing now.  He said                   
 he thinks the regents are going to have to get above all that                 
 and take a look at what we really have to be doing and make                   
 some hard decisions and reprioritize, even in a time when                     
 there is not enough to go around for what is there now.  He                   
 said these are things that he hopes the regents will take a                   
 forceful role in.                                                             
                                                                               
 Senator Sharp added that when one examines the history of the                 
 expansion of the university, it's clear that a lot of the                     
 expansion was done on a political justification and not on                    
 recommendations of efficiency on delivery of the education.                   
 He said the regents are going to have to make some real hard                  
 decisions on where the priorities are and how to best deliver                 
 the upper education resources around the state.                               
                                                                               
 Number 500                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER thanked Ms. Fate and Mr. Ogg for their                        
 participation in the confirmation hearing and then adjourned                  
 the meeting at 2:42 p.m.                                                      
                                                                               

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